Stop Putting Mechanics in Damage Formulas - Revision history

Yanfly: /* Turn 1 */

2021-01-27T15:51:32Z

‎Turn 1

Yanfly at 15:50, 27 January 2021

2021-01-27T15:50:22Z

Yanfly: /* Special Skills */

2021-01-25T23:50:05Z

‎Special Skills

Yanfly: /* How to Properly Fix it */

2021-01-25T23:49:35Z

‎How to Properly Fix it

Yanfly: /* How to Properly Fix it */

2021-01-25T23:49:26Z

‎How to Properly Fix it

Yanfly: /* Introduction */

2021-01-25T22:40:43Z

‎Introduction

Yanfly: /* Turn 1 */

2021-01-25T20:49:01Z

‎Turn 1

Yanfly at 20:47, 25 January 2021

2021-01-25T20:47:18Z

Yanfly: /* How to Properly Fix it */

2021-01-25T20:38:30Z

‎How to Properly Fix it

Yanfly at 20:30, 25 January 2021

2021-01-25T20:30:39Z

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 [[File:MechanicsInsideDamageFormulas_Turn1.png|600px]]
-On turn one, without doing anything at all, you'll see that Harold's HP is at 25%, has his ATK buffed TWICE, has his DEF debuffed TWICE, and MP at 0.
+On turn one, without doing anything at all, you'll see that Harold's HP is at 25% meaning his HP got halved TWICE, has his ATK buffed TWICE, has his DEF debuffed TWICE, and MP at 0.
-Just what on earth happened?
+Just what on earth happened? And why twice? I'll explain:
 === Explanation ===

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 Every other RPG Maker MV/MZ battle-mechanics-loving user has seen [https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/damage-formulas-101.81905/ this article on RPG Maker Web]. It teaches you how to manipulate the damage formula to add in more complexity to skills and items. While most of what the article teaches is okay, the parts where it teaches you how to add mechanics to it aren't because they can conflict heavily with how your game is supposed to operate when the time comes. Don't worry, even I fell prey to this early on in the RPG Maker MV lifecycle.
 {{Article by Yanfly}}
 == A Brand New Project ==

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 This is a skill that gives the user an ATK buff for 5 turns.
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 This is a skill that gives the user an DEF debuff for 5 turns.
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 This is a skill that causes the user to lose 50% of their HP upon usage.
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 This is a skill that causes the user to lose all MP (brings it to 0) upon usage.
 === The Berserker ===

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	[[File:MechanicsInsideDamageFormulas_CommonEvent.png]]		[[File:MechanicsInsideDamageFormulas_CommonEvent.png]]

−	Do it by Common Event or use plugins that perform the mechanical changes OUTSIDE of the damage calculation portion of the skill. Assign these ~~common events~~ to the skill or item's Effects list.	+	Do it by Common Event or use plugins that perform the mechanical changes OUTSIDE of the damage calculation portion of the skill. Assign these Common Events to the skill or item's Effects list.

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 [[File:MechanicsInsideDamageFormulas_CommonEvent.png]]
-Do it by Common Event or use plugins that perform the mechanical changes OUTSIDE of the damage calculation portion of the skill. Assign these common events
+Do it by Common Event or use plugins that perform the mechanical changes OUTSIDE of the damage calculation portion of the skill. Assign these common events to the skill or item's Effects list.
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 * [[Battle Core VisuStella MZ]]'s Action Sequences
 * [[Battle Core VisuStella MZ]]'s JS notetag functions
 == Conclusion ==

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 [[File:MechanicsInsideDamageFormulas_Example1_No.png]]
-Every other RPG Maker MV/MZ user has seen [https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/damage-formulas-101.81905/ this article on RPG Maker Web]. It teaches you how to manipulate the damage formula to add in more complexity to skills and items. While most of what the article teaches is okay, the parts where it teaches you how to add mechanics to it aren't because they can conflict heavily with how your game is supposed to operate when the time comes. Don't worry, even I fell prey to this early on in the RPG Maker MV lifecycle.
+Every other RPG Maker MV/MZ battle-mechanics-loving user has seen [https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/damage-formulas-101.81905/ this article on RPG Maker Web]. It teaches you how to manipulate the damage formula to add in more complexity to skills and items. While most of what the article teaches is okay, the parts where it teaches you how to add mechanics to it aren't because they can conflict heavily with how your game is supposed to operate when the time comes. Don't worry, even I fell prey to this early on in the RPG Maker MV lifecycle.
 {{Article by Yanfly}}
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 That's because the damage formulas should be reserved for damage calculations only. While damage calculations typically occur during battle and/or processing of the effects, they also occur when a skill or item is being evaluated by the A.I. to determine if it's the right skill to use, too. Let's take a look at what happens when mechanics are placed in damage formulas.
 == A Brand New Project ==

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	== Introduction ==		== Introduction ==
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		+	[[File:MechanicsInsideDamageFormulas_Example1_No.png]]

	Every other RPG Maker MV/MZ user has seen [https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/damage-formulas-101.81905/ this article on RPG Maker Web]. It teaches you how to manipulate the damage formula to add in more complexity to skills and items. While most of what the article teaches is okay, the parts where it teaches you how to add mechanics to it aren't because they can conflict heavily with how your game is supposed to operate when the time comes. Don't worry, even I fell prey to this early on in the RPG Maker MV lifecycle.		Every other RPG Maker MV/MZ user has seen [https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/damage-formulas-101.81905/ this article on RPG Maker Web]. It teaches you how to manipulate the damage formula to add in more complexity to skills and items. While most of what the article teaches is okay, the parts where it teaches you how to add mechanics to it aren't because they can conflict heavily with how your game is supposed to operate when the time comes. Don't worry, even I fell prey to this early on in the RPG Maker MV lifecycle.

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 If you are using RPG Maker MV, these plugins let you do that:
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 * [[Battle Core VisuStella MZ]]'s Action Sequences
 * [[Battle Core VisuStella MZ]]'s JS notetag functions
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 === How to NOT Fix it ===
 Some of you may be wondering if we can fix the code that does the evaluation (so that way, you guys can just leave your skills as is without having to redo them).
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 So how do we make the skill properly?
 Do it by Common Event or use plugins that perform the mechanical changes OUTSIDE of the damage calculation portion of the skill. Assign these common events
 If you are using RPG Maker MV, these plugins let you do that: